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		<title>By: Random Gemini</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4317</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Gemini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, I could also be no fun and lacking caffeine :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, I could also be no fun and lacking caffeine <img src='http://randomgemini.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Random Gemini</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4316</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Gemini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I did admit that in my article and this was precisely my point. That attitude that I am in the minority and web devs shouldn&#039;t have to care about me is the problem.

We live in a tyranny of the majority world, where Dino Rossi can&#039;t win an election because Seattle doesn&#039;t want him to, and where I can&#039;t visit a news site and watch all of the video because Joe Schmoe web dev can&#039;t let go of the platform he develops on.

Joe Schmoe web dev should not care what I show up to his party with, as long as I bring my own drinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I did admit that in my article and this was precisely my point. That attitude that I am in the minority and web devs shouldn&#8217;t have to care about me is the problem.</p>
<p>We live in a tyranny of the majority world, where Dino Rossi can&#8217;t win an election because Seattle doesn&#8217;t want him to, and where I can&#8217;t visit a news site and watch all of the video because Joe Schmoe web dev can&#8217;t let go of the platform he develops on.</p>
<p>Joe Schmoe web dev should not care what I show up to his party with, as long as I bring my own drinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4315</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 06:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Developers are already doing what you&#039;re suggesting in your follow up comments.  I suspect this trend of not supporting IE6 will continue even more as IE8 is released.

It&#039;s also worth point out that like it or not, you&#039;re using the (growing) minority platform, and last I checked majority rules in this world. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Developers are already doing what you&#8217;re suggesting in your follow up comments.  I suspect this trend of not supporting IE6 will continue even more as IE8 is released.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth point out that like it or not, you&#8217;re using the (growing) minority platform, and last I checked majority rules in this world. <img src='http://randomgemini.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Random Gemini</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4314</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Gemini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFL!</p>
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		<title>By: jgasm</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4313</link>
		<dc:creator>jgasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was waiting to read &quot;yes we can&quot; for a minute there :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was waiting to read &#8220;yes we can&#8221; for a minute there <img src='http://randomgemini.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Random Gemini</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4312</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Gemini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and yes. 

I think you are right. But I also think that it would be pointless to not try to change it and I think that change begins right here. On this blog, in this small little corner of the world. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and yes. </p>
<p>I think you are right. But I also think that it would be pointless to not try to change it and I think that change begins right here. On this blog, in this small little corner of the world. <img src='http://randomgemini.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jgasm</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4311</link>
		<dc:creator>jgasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, I feel that is a dream that will never happen due to competing corporate interests, personal greed, ego and various other things that have to do with people and not computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, I feel that is a dream that will never happen due to competing corporate interests, personal greed, ego and various other things that have to do with people and not computers.</p>
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		<title>By: jgasm</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4310</link>
		<dc:creator>jgasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you are saying.  Someday I will build a web page and not have to stop and say okay, who has most of my users, of Internet Explorer.  What do i need to do now for them.  Okay, done.  Now I need to check firefox.  Okay, done.  Now I should check safari.  Okay done.  

Am I correct in interpreting that I would not have to stop and think about which OS/Browser/Phone has the biggest market and I could just build one time for all, with the same set of &quot;standards&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you are saying.  Someday I will build a web page and not have to stop and say okay, who has most of my users, of Internet Explorer.  What do i need to do now for them.  Okay, done.  Now I need to check firefox.  Okay, done.  Now I should check safari.  Okay done.  </p>
<p>Am I correct in interpreting that I would not have to stop and think about which OS/Browser/Phone has the biggest market and I could just build one time for all, with the same set of &#8220;standards&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Random Gemini</title>
		<link>http://randomgemini.com/2009/01/the-internet-should-be-platformless/comment-page-1/#comment-4309</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Gemini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 02:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps, when you take it out of the context in which it was written, it might seem like an exaggeration, but the context in which it was written is important. In 25 years, the web standards have not served to provide us with a truly cross platform world wide web and that was the original motivation behind having standards in the first place. It was about making the internet available to everyone who wanted to use it, not just to the guys who were using the most popular operating system of the moment.

I get the impression that you think the same thing that I do about the current web standards. They&#039;re a complete joke. Not only does it take too long to get anything adopted, but often by the time a standard is adopted it has been outmoded because technology moves too fast for bureaucracy. Even worse is that there is no consequence for a particular browser failing to support a standard as written. The W3C has no teeth. 

It&#039;s a problem that I think only web developers can solve. 

I would put to you, that cross platform development would require developers to be more nimble and require them to innovate more than they do when developing for a single platform and would only serve to inspire and drive further innovation of web based technologies because there would be no neat, tidy little box that everything fits inside of. But first, the devs have to give up on the idea that only one platform exists. They have to let go of the crutch that is the OS and begin doing something new.

Only then, can true innovation begin. 

I know that what I am discussing is a bit difficult here because I know that I am speaking in generalities and not specifics and I am debating philosophy rather than statutes. But changing minds and attitudes does not come about by debating specific statutes and the virtues of this OS over that OS. It comes from debating the premise upon which current statutes were built. It comes from questioning the judgment of our current selves and having the foresight to look to a future that is not bound to our present. 

I&#039;m asking you, as a web designer, to think about a future web that is not chained to IE. I&#039;m asking you to conceive of a web that is not tied to a specific platform and, in my wildest dreams, is only limited by your imagination and your ability. I am, quite literally, asking you to think about changing the world in a way that only you are equipped to do. I&#039;m asking you to tackle the problem of what comes after the OS because the day is coming, when we won&#039;t need it anymore. 

It&#039;s not coming fast, but the writing is on the wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps, when you take it out of the context in which it was written, it might seem like an exaggeration, but the context in which it was written is important. In 25 years, the web standards have not served to provide us with a truly cross platform world wide web and that was the original motivation behind having standards in the first place. It was about making the internet available to everyone who wanted to use it, not just to the guys who were using the most popular operating system of the moment.</p>
<p>I get the impression that you think the same thing that I do about the current web standards. They&#8217;re a complete joke. Not only does it take too long to get anything adopted, but often by the time a standard is adopted it has been outmoded because technology moves too fast for bureaucracy. Even worse is that there is no consequence for a particular browser failing to support a standard as written. The W3C has no teeth. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a problem that I think only web developers can solve. </p>
<p>I would put to you, that cross platform development would require developers to be more nimble and require them to innovate more than they do when developing for a single platform and would only serve to inspire and drive further innovation of web based technologies because there would be no neat, tidy little box that everything fits inside of. But first, the devs have to give up on the idea that only one platform exists. They have to let go of the crutch that is the OS and begin doing something new.</p>
<p>Only then, can true innovation begin. </p>
<p>I know that what I am discussing is a bit difficult here because I know that I am speaking in generalities and not specifics and I am debating philosophy rather than statutes. But changing minds and attitudes does not come about by debating specific statutes and the virtues of this OS over that OS. It comes from debating the premise upon which current statutes were built. It comes from questioning the judgment of our current selves and having the foresight to look to a future that is not bound to our present. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m asking you, as a web designer, to think about a future web that is not chained to IE. I&#8217;m asking you to conceive of a web that is not tied to a specific platform and, in my wildest dreams, is only limited by your imagination and your ability. I am, quite literally, asking you to think about changing the world in a way that only you are equipped to do. I&#8217;m asking you to tackle the problem of what comes after the OS because the day is coming, when we won&#8217;t need it anymore. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not coming fast, but the writing is on the wall.</p>
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		<title>By: jgasm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jgasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not feel this is a &quot;web standards&quot; and a &quot;MS standards&quot; issue.  So safari, firefox, opera, avant, kamelion, chrome etc all follow the exact same standards?  and IE just does it&#039;s own thing?  Or is it that all browsers have their own issues working with multiple technologies and thus all follow their own set of standards.  Some may deviate more than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not feel this is a &#8220;web standards&#8221; and a &#8220;MS standards&#8221; issue.  So safari, firefox, opera, avant, kamelion, chrome etc all follow the exact same standards?  and IE just does it&#8217;s own thing?  Or is it that all browsers have their own issues working with multiple technologies and thus all follow their own set of standards.  Some may deviate more than others.</p>
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